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!! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« on: October 27, 2005, 02:27:58 PM »

I just found a terrible bug/issue. For a while, mambohacks/joomlahacks.com was offline. I realised that, during this time, the Joomla-SMF Forum backend configuration is also unavailable.

Looking through the source, i realised that admin.smf.php, smf.class.php, and functions.smf.php makes frequent calls to the variable $MAMBOHACKS, which is defined as "//MAMBOHACKS.COM".

I understand (roughly) that this is to allow the admin backend to connect to mambohacks.com in order to check for patched files..? But isn't it a really bad idea to have a certain function(s) of my site be dependant on another site..? Can't the "patched" version of the files be resident somewhere on my site too..?
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 02:43:18 PM »

This would be an issue with the old Mambo-SMF but not for Joomla-SMF bridge. I already implemented a timeout in case this site is offline. Are you using Joomla-SMF bridge?
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 03:25:46 PM »

yeap i am. just patched to joomla-smf 1.02 in fact. the problem happened when i was still using joomla-smf 1.01b.

my joomla version is 1.03.
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 03:29:21 PM »

that's pretty weird, because I thought this shouldn't be an issue.
Anyhow, I will just look at this again.
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005, 04:21:39 PM »

ok Wink
The bridge is flawless other then this Smiley
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2005, 01:24:41 PM »

any work arounds for this yet? the problem i have is i install everything, even the component installs ok (according to the message after the install), i get the joomla-smf menu in components (admin side) and the config button. But when i click on it it just hangs there, eventually leading to a cannot find server page.
My host has dissabled access to external sites so i assume this is the reason for the trouble (as p9939068).

Also, when i install the component there are only about 4 files in administrator/components/com_smf/ is this normal?

Please help  Huh
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2005, 09:10:22 AM »

I just found a terrible bug/issue. For a while, mambohacks/joomlahacks.com was offline. I realised that, during this time, the Joomla-SMF Forum backend configuration is also unavailable.

Looking through the source, i realised that admin.smf.php, smf.class.php, and functions.smf.php makes frequent calls to the variable $MAMBOHACKS, which is defined as "//MAMBOHACKS.COM".

I understand (roughly) that this is to allow the admin backend to connect to mambohacks.com in order to check for patched files..? But isn't it a really bad idea to have a certain function(s) of my site be dependant on another site..? Can't the "patched" version of the files be resident somewhere on my site too..?


I noticed this crap the very first time I installed it 'cause I do my development offline.
This behaviour  (automatic backdoor connections) is inexcusable and can only serve to cast doubt on Joomla code in general.

For me, I edited my hosts file and put a loopback address for MamboHacks etc to block it.

I already scan all my component downloads and read through the code to see what it does.

I URGE EVERYONE to get one of those offline joomla installations .ie. "JOOMLA Starter kit" (go to joomla.org, developers and search for it)
AND setup a STAND ALONE PC (it does not need more than a Pentium 133 to run, really, and 150mb free disk space.

This PC should NOT be connected to the net, and you copy stuff to/from with a floppy or usb stick.

It seems helpful at first, a component that lets you know if more updated versions are out there, but it also announces your IP address and the current status of your Joomla configuration and God knows what else Sad

A simple user clickable link "Check for Updates" would be much better behaved I feel.
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 09:31:34 AM »

I noticed this crap the very first time I installed it 'cause I do my development offline.
This behaviour  (automatic backdoor connections) is inexcusable and can only serve to cast doubt on Joomla code in general.
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It seems helpful at first, a component that lets you know if more updated versions are out there, but it also announces your IP address and the current status of your Joomla configuration and God knows what else

I really don't like the sound of this post. DO NOT IMPLY that i'm doing  something illegal on that connection? Because I assure all users i'm not!

If you are a technical person as you sounded here. Why don't you look at the code first before you spill this crap.

Just to let you know, SMF does the same thing? Install SMF, check the admin, then spill the crap you mentioned here in their forum.

A tip for you: don't talk about something if you don't know anything about it.
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2005, 09:55:26 AM »

Your outrage is misplaced sir.

I apologise for the fact that I did not mention I also removed the offending behaviour from the SMF code as well (while however, keeping their copyright notices intact)

I believe that this is a wakeup call to site operators to really KNOW what is going on in code they install. 

SONY did worse, installing root kits (backdoor software) on people's machines who bought their CDs. I'm just sensitive to software that acts on it's own to the benefit of others
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Re: !! Bridge config at joomla backend unavailable when mambohacks.com site down
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 10:10:48 AM »

Ok... i'm just gonna lock this thread. I don't want to waste my time here. You're already starting talk about SONY, then probably Microsoft, and so on!

Obviously, you looked at the code and saw that it's just making connection just merely to deliver version information and update news. I don't understand why you're so paranoid. Even a not so technical user would understand what that piece of the code is doing.

Do whatever you want to the code. Don't use it if you prefer.
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