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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2007, 03:35:54 PM »

I agree with Kevin... this whole license issue is absolutely st$p$d. I think it is a bit of a stretch to call SMF a Joomla derivative just because of some shared function calls in a bridge. Let the bridge be licensed GPL, as it already is, and just let it be. If Joomla makes it an issue and forces a stop to distribution of JSMF, I'll look for another CMS to bridge with SMF, or look at using just SMF on my site.

I do appreciate the development of JSMF, and hope that development and distribution will continue uninterrupted.
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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2007, 03:38:09 PM »

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Joomla! is very clear in this one the Bridge between Joomla! and SMF is violating the licence code
What I meant was : this is only Joomla official opinion. It does not have any legal value, it is just their interpreation (and their legal counsel interpretation) of the licence...
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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2007, 03:50:16 PM »

Please read the threads on Joomla.org and Simplemachines carfully and also the the blog on simplemachines then you will get the point.

Like this thread for example (here you can read the mails between SMF and FSF.
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=184557.msg1174407#msg1174407
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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2007, 11:43:48 PM »

What I mean
Can you please explain what you are trying to achieve? You are posting here as well in the Joomla forum the same messages....You do not contribute you create unrest and confusion. Throwing out of context messages around forum boards will not help at all... Please stop this messing around?

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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2007, 12:19:18 AM »

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Well i'm not sure what's happening so I deleted my reaction.

I would say there should be no issue. All of us helped Joomla and SMF reach where they are now.
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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2007, 12:44:37 AM »

Think the best way to find out is to contact the core Team.

Why? See one of my recent post in this topic Wink
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There are definitely shared function calls and data structures between Joomla! and SMF via the bridge, and therefore the bridge still violates the GPL by including a non-GPL element in the workflow.
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Re: JSMF development will continue
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2007, 04:36:08 AM »

Can you please explain what you are trying to achieve? You are posting here as well in the Joomla forum the same messages....You do not contribute you create unrest and confusion. Throwing out of context messages around forum boards will not help at all... Please stop this messing around?

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Hi Leo,

You'll have to explain to me what's out of context here :
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Sorry, this is my first post here, but I have a (possibly) tough question regarding your bridge. Due to recent statements from Joomla (strict GPL enforcement) and SMF (strict SMF licence enforcement:http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=184557), it seems to me that the detailed answer provided in this post by the FSF makes any bridge between Joomla and SMF illegal.
What's your thoughts ?
What I am trying to do is made some people here aware of some issues they will be facing. From the answers above, it seems the people that had planned to spend some time working on, supporting users of, .. the SMF bridge were unaware of the implications of Joomla team decision and subsequent SMF decision (asking to enforce their own licence) for their work, so I don't think it was totally useless to bring this information to their attention. You may think otherwise, that's fine by me.

Regards to all, and sorry about this response to Leo, there won't be more pollution of your forum by me.

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