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Questions about this Bridge
« on: November 09, 2006, 09:07:07 PM »

Hey everyone, I'm considering using this bridge mainly for its support for Community Builder. I have used Orstio's Bridge before, and didn't have many problems with it, but again, it had no CB support. My site currently is run on Tinyportal (www.tinyportal.net), and I will be moving over to joomla (already mirrored on my demo site) in the near future. Over at Joomla.org forums, I saw this:

3) Cowboy's bridge from http://www.joomlahacks.com :
Originally based on an older version of Orstio's bridge, Cowboy soon re-wrote most of the code (originally for better SEF compatibility, but then he kept making improvements).  Good option for someone who wants a simple install, and can have both installed in the same database.
Advantages:

    * Full integration with CB through the use of CB plugin (including avatar synchronization)
    * Joomap integration through the use of Joomap plugin
    * Ability to select PMS of choice
    * Caches parameters and data for significant performance improvement
    * Much simpler install than Orstio's bridge (though Orstio's bridge 1.1.3 and above makes it just as easy)
    * Can migrate users from Joomla to SMF upon login, and from SMF to Joomla.
    * Work with Mambo 4.5.2.X or Joomla 1.0.X
    * SMF can be "wrapped" in Joomla, "unwrapped" (where it is still loading through Joomla, but without any of the headers, side bars, etc.)
    * Can use SMF, Joomla, or Community Builder registration.
    * Can synchronize Joomla and SMF users.
    * Mambot available with capabilities of posting a link to a related forum topic, with options of viewing the forum topic (unformatted for BBC code or smileys) in the content item. Cowboy has mentioned that he is working on all of the features in the other discussbot as well (edit 11/28/05 - it appears that the discussbot linked to above might work for the joomlhacks bridge as well).

Disadvantages:

    * Requires SMF 1.1 RC1 or higher (newest version of the bridge).
    * Requires Joomla and SMF in the same database.
    * Requires the use of standard Joomla (jos_) and SMF (smf_) table headers.No longer an issue with version 2.0
    * Modifies more Joomla and SMF files, leading to possible complications with other components/packages or with upgrades, and the possibility for an unclean uninstall.


The last disadvantage is what scares me. I plan on using several joomla components, and was wondering how common conflicts with other components are with this bridge? Are there any known examples of conflicts? Also, since this bridge syncs CB avatars etc, will it cripple my server load, since I can only afford Shared Hosting at the moment. My site currently has 1900 Members in the SMF database, and we expect up to 3000 by the end of this year.
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Re: Questions about this Bridge
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 01:08:49 AM »

Can a mod please move this to the proper section. I just realized i posted in the wrong place.
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Re: Questions about this Bridge
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 12:31:11 AM »

Hey everyone, I'm considering using this bridge mainly for its support for Community Builder. I have used Orstio's Bridge before, and didn't have many problems with it, but again, it had no CB support. My site currently is run on Tinyportal (www.tinyportal.net), and I will be moving over to joomla (already mirrored on my demo site) in the near future. Over at Joomla.org forums, I saw this:

3) Cowboy's bridge from http://www.joomlahacks.com :
Originally based on an older version of Orstio's bridge, Cowboy soon re-wrote most of the code (originally for better SEF compatibility, but then he kept making improvements).  Good option for someone who wants a simple install, and can have both installed in the same database.
Advantages:

    * Full integration with CB through the use of CB plugin (including avatar synchronization)
    * Joomap integration through the use of Joomap plugin
    * Ability to select PMS of choice
    * Caches parameters and data for significant performance improvement
    * Much simpler install than Orstio's bridge (though Orstio's bridge 1.1.3 and above makes it just as easy)
    * Can migrate users from Joomla to SMF upon login, and from SMF to Joomla.
    * Work with Mambo 4.5.2.X or Joomla 1.0.X
    * SMF can be "wrapped" in Joomla, "unwrapped" (where it is still loading through Joomla, but without any of the headers, side bars, etc.)
    * Can use SMF, Joomla, or Community Builder registration.
    * Can synchronize Joomla and SMF users.
    * Mambot available with capabilities of posting a link to a related forum topic, with options of viewing the forum topic (unformatted for BBC code or smileys) in the content item. Cowboy has mentioned that he is working on all of the features in the other discussbot as well (edit 11/28/05 - it appears that the discussbot linked to above might work for the joomlhacks bridge as well).

Disadvantages:

    * Requires SMF 1.1 RC1 or higher (newest version of the bridge).
    * Requires Joomla and SMF in the same database.
    * Requires the use of standard Joomla (jos_) and SMF (smf_) table headers.No longer an issue with version 2.0
    * Modifies more Joomla and SMF files, leading to possible complications with other components/packages or with upgrades, and the possibility for an unclean uninstall.


The last disadvantage is what scares me. I plan on using several joomla components, and was wondering how common conflicts with other components are with this bridge? Are there any known examples of conflicts? Also, since this bridge syncs CB avatars etc, will it cripple my server load, since I can only afford Shared Hosting at the moment. My site currently has 1900 Members in the SMF database, and we expect up to 3000 by the end of this year.

The last disadvantage is a deal breaker.  No way would I integrate my production forum, and I don't have that many users, only 21 users!  Why does this site still have the hella old bridge 1.1.4 out here?  The up to date bridge is 1.1.6.  Sounds like someone took it upon themselves, which is fine as long as it's a stable bridge.  Orstio's bridge works fine and makes sense.  I'd rather deal with no avatar sync if these are the consequences.  This site should take down or archive all old versions of the bridge.
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Re: Questions about this Bridge
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 10:16:01 AM »

The last disadvantage is a deal breaker.  No way would I integrate my production forum, and I don't have that many users, only 21 users!  Why does this site still have the hella old bridge 1.1.4 out here?  The up to date bridge is 1.1.6.  Sounds like someone took it upon themselves, which is fine as long as it's a stable bridge.  Orstio's bridge works fine and makes sense.  I'd rather deal with no avatar sync if these are the consequences.  This site should take down or archive all old versions of the bridge.
The 1.1.4 is not in any shape or form related to Orstio's versions.  Second, this bridge modifies the Joomla index in order to allow login from joomla's standard login as well as better integration of joomla modules.  Finally, in case you didn't know and didn't see, JSMF 2.0RC3 is available in the remository.
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Re: Questions about this Bridge
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2006, 03:45:42 PM »

Sorry, didn't mean to jump your bridge without at least trying it.  It does look like it has extended features over Orstio's 1.1.6 bridge, however, it does require SMF and Joomla being in the same DB?  I'd really rather keep them separate for right now, as I've put a lot of work into my Joomla config over the last couple weeks (mods, etc).  Unless there is a way to merge the two DB's?  I have plenty of backups to work with if things get screwed up.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 03:58:39 PM »

just copy your tabels in your Joomla database Wink
by default joomla gets the prefix jos_
and SMF gets by default smf_

so that would not be the problem Wink
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2006, 07:21:22 PM »

Sorry, didn't mean to jump your bridge without at least trying it.  It does look like it has extended features over Orstio's 1.1.6 bridge, however, it does require SMF and Joomla being in the same DB?  I'd really rather keep them separate for right now, as I've put a lot of work into my Joomla config over the last couple weeks (mods, etc).  Unless there is a way to merge the two DB's?  I have plenty of backups to work with if things get screwed up.
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