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Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« on: December 16, 2006, 10:28:41 AM »

Hi,
After running my Joomla and SMF installation wrapped using the bridge for a little while now, I was wondering if it's possible to run the forum on a subdomain?
I already have my forum installed in a folder inside my root, so setting up a sub-domain pointing to it shouldn't be a problem, but would the bridge still work?

The only reason I am interested in running the forum from a sub domain is so that I can use the word forum for SEO purposes.

Thanks very much.
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 10:40:28 AM »

the bridge works on absolute paths, so if the absolute path is correct then it will work.  But what I am not sure about is how you are proposing to use the subdomain.  The forum must be in a path on the same server.  I don't know if that answers this, but I am a bit confused on what you are trying to do.
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 01:12:30 AM »

Hi Wolverine,

My domain is hairdressingworld.com

I wanted to run the forum from a subdomain named forum.hairdressingworld.com.

The reason for this is so that every URL from the forum contains the word "forum" in the URL. Currently of course, it doesn't. I want to do this purely for SEO purposes.

I am assuming that the path would be the same seeing as the forum would remain in the same folder of the same server? Perhaps somebody can shed some light on this?

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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 10:09:42 AM »

the bridge would still produce URLS without the subdomain in them.  Because the urls are using the Live Site configuration setting of Joomla, which is not the subdomain.  There may be a way, but I am unaware of how.
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2006, 07:33:07 PM »

Off the top of my head, a .htaccess rewrite rule may work.
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 10:01:51 PM »

You might be able to use openSEF or a like component to map the components=com_smf to forums.mysite.com.

I don't know if openSEF supports subdomains, but if they do, that should work,  but I still don't know if that would change the bridge processing of URL's.

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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 04:33:28 AM »

Yeh, it's a difficult one isn't it?
Both OpenSEF and ArstioSEF seem to have abandoned their support forums entirely. Legitimate questions have been left unanswered for weeks, so I am loathe to install either component incase something goes wrong.

I think most people would agree that having the word Forum in the URL is excellent for SEO. I wouldn't even mind if the word forum appeared as a folder rather than a sub domain i.e. mydomain.com/forum.

Anything's better than component/option,com_smf etc.

I think we need a SEF component that works and is supported by it's developers!  Wink 
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 09:25:13 AM »

I started looking at the SEF and was kind of dismayed by how they were implemented.  Although I don't claim to know the first thing about some of this, many stored every single page url in the db and as the page loaded it queried the db many, many times.  At least, that is the brief impression I got.  Imagine all the links on any given forum page... just the board listing is over a hundred generally.  I can't imagine a hundred queries to the db to load a single page.

Not that I have a better solution... and I may have misunderstood some of the code when I reviewed the SEF system, but that was my impression.
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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2006, 12:00:52 AM »

I started looking at the SEF and was kind of dismayed by how they were implemented.  Although I don't claim to know the first thing about some of this, many stored every single page url in the db and as the page loaded it queried the db many, many times.  At least, that is the brief impression I got.  Imagine all the links on any given forum page... just the board listing is over a hundred generally.  I can't imagine a hundred queries to the db to load a single page.

Not that I have a better solution... and I may have misunderstood some of the code when I reviewed the SEF system, but that was my impression.

This what has me confused Wolverine.

Before I began using Joomla or SMF, I used other forum softwares and basic HTML or PHP files for my website.

To do a re-write of a URL with those websites, you simply make a re-write rule in your HTaccess file.
I do not understand why we cannot do that with Joomla, and why components need to be installed instead.  Huh
For instance, even just a simple rewrite that renamed the /option,com_smf/ part of the URL to a user designated name (like /joomlahacksforum/ for instance) would be ideal would it not?
Why can that not be done with a mod_rewrite? Or can it?
I don't know much about mod_rewrite so I guess somebody else might be able to explain.

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Re: Is it possible to run the SMF installation on a sub-domain?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2006, 10:36:37 AM »

Id have to think about this, but off the top of my head I am not this would work because the bridge is already rewriting urls.... so some conflicts may occur. 
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